The Traditional Shoulder Pain Cycle…

by Mike Westerdal, CPT

A couple years ago I was setting personal records in the bench press while competing in powerlifting but a nagging shoulder injury put my progress to a halt.

In my case I felt that I could still workout, however I was very limited in what kind of workouts I could do pain free.

That’s when I found myself caught in a vicious cycle that Rick Kaselj, MS calls, “The Traditional Shoulder Pain Model“.

Eventually I was told, “If it hurts, don’t do it.”   That’s when I knew I was barking up the wrong tree  and had to look elsewhere for relief.

Working in the fitness industry myself I knew I had to go to the source of the knowledge and cut out the middle man which lead me to Injury Specialist and Exercise Physiologist Rick Kaselj, MS.

You see Rick is more than just a specialist.  He’s the guy who teaches the other fitness professionals the newest techniques to help their own clients.  He has given over 315 live presentations to over 6065 health and fitness professionals across Canada and the USA.

Sure his credentials, degrees and real-world experiences are fine and dandy, but what ultimately sold me on him is the fact that he works with athletes and people that are serious about getting back to their workouts, not avoiding them.

As Rick explained to me this Traditional Shoulder Pain Cycle is very common and has happened to most of his clients in the past. It goes a little something like this…

  • STEP 1: At some point in your lifting career you come home and your shoulder just feels extra sore and you know something just isn’t right so you take some anti-inflammatory pills and throw an ice pack on. It’s not a big deal and part of playing sports and training hard right?Hopefully in a few days it will be completely better, but usually some kind of discomfort or pain lingers. That’s no reason to miss a workout though. I know what’s on your mind, you can always avoid a few exercises that cause it to flare up and you can always train legs after all.
  • STEP 2: Eventually this gets old and if it doesn’t feel better after a few weeks or months it’s probably time to visit the doctor to find out what’s going on. After using up a sick day and sitting for an hour in the waiting room it’s pretty annoying when the doctor tells you to rest, ice, and don’t do things that hurt. Seriously?If your insurance isn’t that great you’ll probably have to go back to your primary care doctor to get a referral to see a specialist. They’ll have you do an MRI which is super expensive. You’ll have to schedule another appointment for that though.
  • STEP 3: After the MRI you’ll get the diagnosis at your next appointment. How many appointments is that so far? I’ve lost track already…sigh
  • STEP 4: of the pain cycle is when you get sent to a physical therapist. If you’re in luck your therapist has worked with athletes in the past but who are we kidding, most of the people in the center are not physically fit at all.
  • STEP 5: Modalities you might be exposed to include hot packs, cold packs, ultrasound and electrical stimulation to name just a few.
  • STEP 6: Once your insurance runs out or you think you know the stretches and strengthening exercises well enough you can continue with the rehab on your own time.
  • STEP 7: If it still doesn’t feel better it’s time for another MRI……cha-ching, the cost is really adding up fast.
  • STEP 8: Next you can try more physical therapy or you can cover the symptoms with a cortisone shot that will numb the pain for a couple months. After that there’s always surgery, but something in your gut tells you that’s not what you really need. Listen to your instincts.
In my case this entire cycle lasted 6-months, but others aren’t so fortunate. The worst part is it can keep perpetuating itself and you can find yourself going through this pain cycle over and over.

Hopefully you’re asking yourself…Mike, how do I make sure I don’t get caught in this crooked traditional shoulder pain model? I’m glad you asked…..

Deal With the ROOT of the Problem Not the Symptoms

Before initially going to the doctor I researched a lot of alternative shoulder rehab solutions.

With these traditional shoulder pain programs, they focus on stretching and strengthening. This does not work or at best provides temporary shoulder pain relief. The reality is that stretching focuses on symptoms, not necessarily the problem.

Neither Strengthening nor Stretching Will Help You Until The Shoulder Joint Has Been Reshaped Into a Pain Free Joint.

While strengthening is important, it needs to be done when the shoulder joint has been reshaped into a pain-free shoulder joint. If you have not reshaped the shoulder joint into a pain-free joint, you are just adding more strength to a painful joint and making the problem worse. In time this stress leads to repetitive shoulder injuries, increased shoulder joint damage and shoulder pain.

In tomorrow’s update I’ll share with you some tips on how to re-shape your shoulders so that when you strengthen them you will NOT be causing more damage.

One more thing, if you haven’t watched the 5 Worst Exercises For Your Shoulders & How To Fix Them you can access them here.

Click Here For Part 2 Of This Article

Leave A Reply (63 comments So Far)

  1. Nick Pineault
    11 years ago

    Can’t wait for the rest. Great article. I know my right shoulder isn’t in the best position possible right now… I intent to fix it with your product asap!

  2. Jim
    11 years ago

    I’ve had shoulder pain in my left side (I am left handed) for quite some time .. I have full range of movement but have noticed the pain is worse lately and this parallels lifting heavier lately. I’ve backed down the weights to make sure I was executing with proper form and found the 5 mistakes videos quite interesting … certainly looking forward to the next installment!!

  3. Robert
    11 years ago

    I was in the shoulder pain cycle but an MRI showed a nasty rotor cuff tear and SLAP damage. Surgery was 2 1/2 hours. I’m an older lifter (59) and will adjust my training after therapy.

  4. todd victorson
    11 years ago

    What you said is “dead on”- I am suffering lingering shoulder pain which comes and goes- I don’t have health insurance, so I can’t see a DR. And, I can’t take aniti-inflammatories as I take testosterone, which would leave me at high risk of a bleeding ulcer combing those two.
    I can workout, but like you said, have to “avoid” shoulder exercises that aggravate my situation. And I don’t do heavy benches- I’m actually just trying to maintain what I have, I don’t want to get any bigger.
    I have a BFST wrap as I believe I also have elbow tendonitis.
    If you guys could tell me what to do, I would really appreciate it. I’ve been icing, and using the BFST wrap, and it provides temporary relief, but this whole thing is really getting old.

  5. Dave
    11 years ago

    I’m a rock and ice climber, so shoulder pain is no stranger to me. I have a joint impringement, torn rotator cuff and detached biceps tendon all in the same arm. What I have found is that climbing and stretching (hanging from a chin-up bar or climbing hold) helps dramatically. Actually I find if I take time off from climbing, my shoulder starts to bother me. A cautionary note about cordisone shots. My biceps tendon was sore but did not snap until I had a cordisone shot. Later I learned that cordisone softens the tendons.

  6. Mike
    11 years ago

    Two MRI’s, both “inconclusive”, and numerous PT sessions over the past 15 years and my right shoulder is a mess. Greatly diminished ROM. The left one is beginning to be affected after years of becoming the dominant side.(I’m right-handed) If you can show me something worthwhile, I’d echo your praises far and wide. Bring it on!

  7. Keith Thomas
    11 years ago

    I am developing a pain in my right deltoids, manifesting itself when I do chin-ups and pull-ups. The pain is definitely in the muscle, not deep in the joint. I’m training for one-armed chin-ups and am almost there.

  8. Fred Royer
    11 years ago

    This is why I started the 5×5 program (at empty bar, like he suggested). I’m well into triple digits on all my lifts now, pain free and looking great. First learn the form, then add the weight. Too many guys fail to plan and think they can look like Ah-Nuld after one week. Commit to fitness for the rest of your life, not just because swim suit season is around the corner.

  9. Wayne
    11 years ago

    I am not sure if the kind of pain/injury I have is what you are calling ‘shoulder pain’. Mine is of the rotator cuff family. I am not a body builder or super athlete, but have been active all of my life and have always trained. Am now 64 and have been doing Rusty’s program and have had wonderful results!

    My problem is not lifting over my head or going straight up (no pain there), it is more a motion like you might use pouring something out of a pitcher. Even a relatively small weight ( or even no weight) when in the right position creates a sharp pain in the front shoulder area.


    <div class="comment-childs<?php echo $deep%2 ? ' chalt' : ''; ?>" id="comment-1431"><?php if(function_exists("get_avatar")) echo get_avatar( $comment, 32 ); ?><p><cite>Elizabeth Azhar</cite> Reply:<br /><small class="commentmetadata">October 11th, 2012 at 8:37 pm</small></p>

    The motion you are describing sounds like an orthopedic test called “the empty can test”. It is for supraspinatus strength and integrity.

    <div class="comment-childs<?php echo $deep%2 ? ' chalt' : ''; ?>" id="comment-1500"><?php if(function_exists("get_avatar")) echo get_avatar( $comment, 32 ); ?><p><cite>rudi</cite> Reply:<br /><small class="commentmetadata">October 13th, 2012 at 3:37 am</small></p>

    chk out lazy sholder ……..happens to most men in their 40’s


  10. Mark Douglas
    11 years ago

    Getting ready for the Masters North American Bodybuilding Championships next year. I’ve lifted from 12 yrs. old, I’m 55 now. Did 15 years of Bodybuilding competitions and yrs. of mixed martial arts.After a 13 year “retirement” from competition, but not lifting, I’m lifting heavy and hard again. But, a right shoulder injury is holding back my progress. Looking forward to your next article.
    Mark Douglas

    11 years ago


  12. Dheeraj
    11 years ago

    same thing happened with me. when i do bench press or incline or decline i feel fuckin bad pain in my shoulder.
    before 7 days ago the pain was in front of shoulder but now a days i feel pain in back side of shoulder also.what should i do ? plz help me SIR.

  13. Bob
    11 years ago

    My right shoulder has been a limiting factor for strength training for years now. I started doing Stronglifts 5×5 in May and have made great progress with everything but the bench. I was up to 125 lbs for the sets and then the shoulder started screaming at me. I hadn’t done any in a month or two and now am working my way up to a pathetic 100 lbs for the sets. I’m doing 230 for the squat, 263 for the deadlifts and 163 for the barbell row. I turned 65 last week and am frustrated with the shoulder. I hope the rest of the article will help, as I’ve been through the cycle you described. Thanks for these articles, they’ve been very helpful.

  14. Robert
    11 years ago

    I can’t wait for the next. You explained in detail, MY EXACT ISSUE AND EXPERIENCE. In the end I am left defeated, depressed and left wondering what I can do. I tried every rotary cuff workout imagineable, but I still have issues the moment I try to do any upper body workout.


  15. Bruce
    11 years ago

    I appreciate the information. I have had shoulder problems off and on for a long time. Comes and goes. Looking forward to more.

  16. g
    11 years ago

    Thank-you for this information. I went though this cycle for years. After taking my health into my own hands and making choices outside the bos (at the time), I improved, though not 100 per cent. So, waiting for your next article for re-shaping shoulders. Sounds interesting.
    Thank-you again for your insights.

  17. Joe Lackey
    11 years ago

    During the past year I have signficantly reduced the amount of weight that I use on my shoulder exercises (lateral raises and presses). The problem is the right shoulder, not the left. I have changed the angle of the exercises that has helped somewhat. Pain is not the major issue yet, it is the tightness and grinding in the joint that affects the exercises (arthritis is known concern). I use various total body stretching exercises prior to weight training, including yoga and tai chi movements. I have experimented with various joint supplements over the past two years that has provided some improvement. I am 75 and still exercising a minimum of 2 hours a day, so not expecting a lot of change or improvement.

  18. Giovanni m
    11 years ago

    I have a sharp pain where my shoulder meets the bicep. It hurts like hell and I am fearful to work it out.

  19. Gerrit
    11 years ago

    Can’t wait for the rest!!

  20. Peter M
    11 years ago

    Great! Lookin’ forward to tomorrow!

  21. Jim
    11 years ago

    Want to learn more. Pain is substantial.

  22. Mike
    11 years ago

    Have been active in sports all my life and have had issues with my right shoulder for years. At this time it has gone down the arm and become a pain over the elbow as well. Still able to work out, but at a limited capacity.

  23. Joe Rooney
    11 years ago

    Yeah, been there done that, eventually got the surgery for my right shoulder. 6 months of physio and rehab, and a year of gradually recovering. And I’ve still residual pain if I stress too much. The cause of the tears and damage was pretty simple – too much weight, poor form and showing off. Learning how to do it right and damn the peer pressure from the other gym rats who don’t know any better than I did will prevent future injuries. The shoulder exercise videos really taught me techniques I ought to have been following a long time ago. Thanks.

  24. Elizabeth Azhar
    11 years ago

    I am so pleased to hear someone educating the public on this! I’m really looking forward to reading this program. As a chiropractor I see people every day that have failed out of that medical cycle for shoulder pain. Even after PT most of my patients have no idea what the scapula has to do with shoulder function and why scapular stability is important. Even great exercises can cause damage when done incorrectly. Wonderful advice!!

  25. victor vasis
    11 years ago

    have done stretching (yoga) & strengthening (with small weghts (10 lbs) but shoulder blades continue to be sore.
    Great article very informative. When is does your produsct Ibecome available.?

  26. martin andries
    11 years ago

    I am a doctor of chiropractic, have practiced for 28 years, was able to military 250 lbs with free weights at 55 years of age. Unfortunately, a few months ago, I began having the same symptoms I’ve seen in my office for years, supraspinatus tendonitis or impingement syndrome. However, I can’t work on myself the way I normally do with my patients doing active release technique and I practice in a rural area that makes it hard for me to see another practitioner.
    I have been doing the rotator cuff exercises, primarily external rotation for teres minor and infraspinatus since most of these issues stem from the shoulder gliding forward and internal rotation. I have avoided military presses and flyes or any exercise that exacerbates my symptoms. One day it will be better, one day it is worse, for 4 months now, no significant change. I’m hoping I can learn something that I don’t know that will help me.

  27. Marshall
    11 years ago

    Excited to see the next article. My shoulder only recently has started bothering me and I am getting ready to head to step 2 even though I know in my gut I should be pursuing other options before the doctor path.

  28. Francisco Valdez
    11 years ago

    I am 84 years old. Physical conditions are quite well. All my teen and following life I have been doing Gym work. I run or walh 30+ minutes 4 times a week and do Gym work after. Probaly people would estimate that I am 60-65 years old. Good health, no heart problems. Problems on the rotating bone and moving structure: shoulders (this is the main problem nowadays), spine and knees. Six months ago (now is Oct. 2013) I did 3 per week10 bench press with 50 Kgs. now I can lift 23 Kgs. with great efforts.
    My routine now mixes weights and rubber bands, plus walking at a speed of 165-170 steps/minute. I do not run protecting the knee and column bones. That’s my sporting life.

    <div class="comment-childs<?php echo $deep%2 ? ' chalt' : ''; ?>" id="comment-1447"><?php if(function_exists("get_avatar")) echo get_avatar( $comment, 32 ); ?><p><cite>Rick Kaselj</cite> Reply:<br /><small class="commentmetadata">October 12th, 2012 at 3:25 am</small></p>


    That is great.

    I hope I am as active as you are when I am 84.

    Rick Kaselj of Fix My Shoulder Pain



  29. Celso
    11 years ago

    I can’t believe it has been almost a year since I got this pain in my left shoulder, at first I thought it was
    something that should go away next day or a week but unfortunatly since to be worst. I haven’t seen a doctor yet,
    I don’t go to the gym that often anymore, I can’t lift not even 50 pounds, the only thing I do when working out is pull-ups. I need help, but I don’t want see a doctor, I don’ want surgery, I know people who aren’t the same after surgery.

  30. bob herrera
    11 years ago

    i’ve had what you describe for years, couldn;t even sleep on my sides….went to a therapist and she gave me six excersises, 3 without weights, 3 with to do every time before working out, and then do static stretches after the main workout,,,this helped a lot, a real lot, i can sleep on my sides without waking up in pain….never too pain killers or anti inflammatories, don;t likle pills…anyways, am better, but still have to go thru pain when benching, and it definelty holds me back from adding more weight,….particularly is painfull on wode grips, when i have hands outside of the two round rings on the bar….any help is really appreciated

    <div class="comment-childs<?php echo $deep%2 ? ' chalt' : ''; ?>" id="comment-1445"><?php if(function_exists("get_avatar")) echo get_avatar( $comment, 32 ); ?><p><cite>Rick Kaselj</cite> Reply:<br /><small class="commentmetadata">October 12th, 2012 at 2:20 am</small></p>


    Try this –

    Rick Kaselj of Fix My Shoulder Pain



  31. Lois Grinceri
    11 years ago

    Some of the above – Rehab gym next stop. Hoping for a pot of gold (no more shoulder pain)

  32. Steve
    11 years ago

    I have had two shoulder problems. One on the right and now one on the left.
    The right one was a “frozen shoulder” or adhesive capsulitis. I am a veterinarian, and old school. Old school guy vets just don’t go to MDs very often. In addition to working out I love to play golf. While I had developed a working swing with the frozen right shoulder it just wasn’t right and I had frequent, sometimes pretty intense pain. So I go to a local orthopedic guy recommended by some clients who should know. I brought my own radiographs. What happened there was to me most underimpressive. First the nurse comes in and takes a blood pressure, but doesn’t tell me what it was. Then the MD comes in, and seeing I am a vet, BSs about orthopedics with me a bit. Then he looks at the radiograph of the wrong shoulder, tell me he sees some osteoarthrosis and prescribes a methylprednisolone injection and physical therapy, with an MRI pending if it does not resolve. Never does a real exam and never tells me my blood pressure. I got the intra-articular injection and never went back. The injection was not really helpful but about a month or so later I stretched out my shoulders using my driver behind my back. I felt a rip (the adhesion) on the right shoulder and then it was fine after that.
    The left shoulder I injured in the gym about 18 months ago. I had finished my best bench press workout ever, and benched a max of, as I remember 285lb ( I am pushing 60 and weight about 185). Then I went over to a stupid military press machine and on the fourth rep at 130lb I got a little pop in the shoulder. This coincided with a major business expansion an I was out of the gym for about a year. I started working out again on an extended weekend at a hotel with a decent gym and with me actually having time. My shoulder started to improve. I used to do a fair number of pull ups prior to the injury but this motion in particular was bothersome. Eventually I tried one of those assisted pullup machines. I felt another pop in my shoulder that really hurt. I thought I really screwed up there but I have been making great progress since then. There are still a few movements that cause pain, especially lifting my arm overhead at certain angles but it is about 90 % back. For me exercise seems to be the key. If I have an injury from being overly ambitious ( a personal fault) then it turns out I just need to do what I can and pretty soon it all comes together. I am going to stay an old school vet and depend on my own judgement as much as possible as this seems to be what really works. The best advice I have gotten is from an online work out coach who suggested balancing muscle developement around joint so that all involved muscles are at a parity.

  33. Steve
    11 years ago

    I should point out that the second injury was in the LEFT shoulder and that the right one resolved completely.

  34. Joe Dustoff
    11 years ago

    Intrigued. The article describes me to a tee, including surgery on my left which is pretty good, now. The right is now giving me fits with flares and calming cycles. I’m right-handed. I’ve maxed out on steroid injections. Every time I think it’s improving, I get a set back. Of course, I’m 57 years old which doesn’t help anything.

    This time, I’ve lost my long time job and just started a new one. Surgery is out of the question. The 5 mistakes videos did identify some things that I was doing wrong… AND HAVE BEEN ALL OF MY LIFE!!!

    Thanks, for the article. Can’t wait for part 2.

  35. eric cruz
    11 years ago

    Great article so far.I had shoulder pain when i would do bench flies.Eventually the pain went away and i’ve fine since.I do change up my routine every 8 to 10 weeks so maybe that was the solution.

    <div class="comment-childs<?php echo $deep%2 ? ' chalt' : ''; ?>" id="comment-1461"><?php if(function_exists("get_avatar")) echo get_avatar( $comment, 32 ); ?><p><cite>Rick Kaselj</cite> Reply:<br /><small class="commentmetadata">October 12th, 2012 at 1:36 pm</small></p>


    That is a big one.

    Changing up your routine.

    Excellent point.

    Rick Kaselj of Fix My Shoulder Pain



  36. Vicky
    11 years ago

    Lookinfgforward to the re-shaping tips!!
    Currently having physio privately, but still have to work (fitness is my job) and knowing what to do to ‘help’ rather than ‘hurt’ is just what I need.

    <div class="comment-childs<?php echo $deep%2 ? ' chalt' : ''; ?>" id="comment-1460"><?php if(function_exists("get_avatar")) echo get_avatar( $comment, 32 ); ?><p><cite>Rick Kaselj</cite> Reply:<br /><small class="commentmetadata">October 12th, 2012 at 1:35 pm</small></p>


    We will have more tips in todays email.

    Rick Kaselj of Fix My Shoulder Pain



  37. Kate
    11 years ago

    Just when I think I am on the mend I do a bad push-up or burpee. Then I am back on the ice pack and safe exercises. Looking forward to the next article.

    <div class="comment-childs<?php echo $deep%2 ? ' chalt' : ''; ?>" id="comment-1459"><?php if(function_exists("get_avatar")) echo get_avatar( $comment, 32 ); ?><p><cite>Rick Kaselj</cite> Reply:<br /><small class="commentmetadata">October 12th, 2012 at 1:34 pm</small></p>

    Thanks Kate.

    Rick Kaselj of Fix My Shoulder Pain


  38. Mohit Nayar
    11 years ago

    Im so looking forward to the next one. i.e how to reshape my shoulder joint. Its so bent forward and looks smaller tham the other one. Im desperate to fix my shoulder. You have no idea what it means to me to be able to go back to the gym.
    Thanks in advance.

    <div class="comment-childs<?php echo $deep%2 ? ' chalt' : ''; ?>" id="comment-1455"><?php if(function_exists("get_avatar")) echo get_avatar( $comment, 32 ); ?><p><cite>Rick Kaselj</cite> Reply:<br /><small class="commentmetadata">October 12th, 2012 at 1:23 pm</small></p>


    We will have a great tip for you in the next email.

    Rick Kaselj of Fix My Shoulder Pain



  39. Jimmy Gray
    11 years ago

    Same story. after some shoulder workouts the pain lingers for days and it seems my bench press suffers because of it.

    <div class="comment-childs<?php echo $deep%2 ? ' chalt' : ''; ?>" id="comment-1480"><?php if(function_exists("get_avatar")) echo get_avatar( $comment, 32 ); ?><p><cite>Rick Kaselj</cite> Reply:<br /><small class="commentmetadata">October 12th, 2012 at 8:55 pm</small></p>

    Look at the technique you are doing in your exercises, they could be putting stress on the shoulder joint compared to the muscles.

    Rick Kaselj of Fix My Shoulder Pain



  40. Stan Ziegler
    11 years ago

    My shoulders have no cartilidge on either side. Joint replacement is no option, as I wouldn’t be able to lift more than 10 lbs afterwards.

    I have determined a major cause of arthritis in the shoulder is side sleeping. If one can train themselves to sleep on their back instead of their side it produces less joint stress during sleep and allows the joint to renew.

  41. Jen
    11 years ago

    I’m afraid to do heavy weight with my shoulders. I haven’t gone thru this cycle yet. Currently my problem is that a rib under my shoulder blade keeps popping out. The chiropractor fixes it but doesn’t tell me why it happens or how I can deal with it. Then I think that pain goes up into my neck. Any idea how to fix that shoulder problem?

    <div class="comment-childs<?php echo $deep%2 ? ' chalt' : ''; ?>" id="comment-1477"><?php if(function_exists("get_avatar")) echo get_avatar( $comment, 32 ); ?><p><cite>Rick Kaselj</cite> Reply:<br /><small class="commentmetadata">October 12th, 2012 at 8:54 pm</small></p>

    Go to a different chiropractor that will help teach you on what to do.

    I would need more information to give good feedback.

    Rick Kaselj of Fix My Shoulder Pain



  42. James
    11 years ago

    surgery last year. Still lack of scapular range of motion and pain.

  43. Jen
    11 years ago

    I have had shoulder pain for almost three years now. I hate feeling limited in my workouts. I can’t wait to learn more.

    11 years ago


  45. Chuck
    11 years ago

    My shoulder pain comes and goes. It’s in the front top part of my left shoulder. I hurt it again just recently lifting a heavy bag. I’ve been doing strength training which has helped some but you know how that goes. It’s kept me from lifting heavy weight with my left arm in the past so I’m also looking forward to reading your article. Thanks Mike!

  46. Brita
    11 years ago

    Hi all, a couple of years ago i found the my left arm would ache especially around the outer elbow so much so that i was unable to lift a kettle to make a cup of coffee or ride my motorbike or do a bra up – big problem there…. went physio and massage couldn’t fix it ‘you’ll have to have surgery they said’ … i finally went to a chiro … thinking my elbow was injured beyond repair i had put my training back by 6 months at this stage. He said it’s nothing to do with your elbow … he did some readjusting of that shoulder and upper back … which by now was not happy either and within minutes i was pain free .. really no pain … my shoulder has been permantly damaged (motorcycle racing) but with chiro and a complete change in how i train… not heavy but smarter … i was amazed at how much the pecs can contribute to the problem … they can pull your shoulder across and out of alignment …. but the best exercise ever for shoulder injury is swimming … use weights on your arms or swimming mits…. awesome workout and stretch at the same time. i still go to the chiro about once a month just to be sure the alignment is good … there are some exerises i just will not do and upright rows and dips are on the top of that list. thanks Brita

  47. Adrian G. Cameron
    11 years ago

    Stretching directly overhead causes pain in both shoulders but mainly my left.

    Lifting more than around 30 lbs overhead (it varies from day to day) causes serious discomfort.

    Putting my hands/arms behind my back or neck causes discomfort – the further back or up I move them, the more pain.

    Throwing a baseball (or anything else) causes pain, and I am limited greaatly in how far I can throw.

  48. Gillian
    11 years ago

    Very intrigued by your articles 🙂

    I’ve had shoulder pain, reduced range of motion, pain flaring up into my neck off and on for years. Have tried therapy balls, massaging out my shoulder/neck muscles, stretching out pecs after a workout. This does help, but I’d LOVE to be able to get back into military presses and chest flyes without impingement! As a personal trainer and body builder this is extremely frustrating! On ‘bad’ days even pushups irritate my L shoulder joint!

    Looking forward to future articles Rick!

  49. frank
    11 years ago

    yo he visto a mi doctor,por problemas de dolor cronico en ambos hombros.
    diagnostico:artosis de articulacion glenohumeral.
    tratamiento analgesicos,hielo y eventualmente cirugia de acuerdo a MR

  50. KC
    11 years ago

    Mike, thank you for posting Rick and all that he’s about. I felt the blog above was written personally about me as I’ve gone through that entire cycle too,,,,for years. My specialist told me to cut out the exercises that ‘hurt’ my shoulder. (My very heavy-set out-of-shape specialist, I might add.) I wanted to thank him for the brilliant non-athletic ‘advice’, but bit my tongue and never went back to him. Competitive badminton has really kicked the shat out of my right shoulder. It’s noticeably ‘higher’ than my left one when I do a simple upright row without weights even. I watched Ricks videos on the 5 worst shoulder exericses – very informative. I’ll be making changes to my next workout, for sure! :o}}}

  51. Jared
    11 years ago

    Realy glad to hear there is hope for people with shoulder problems to be at gym again. I have dislocated my my shoulder 5 times had keyhole surgery 2 years ago (left bancart repair) and had another shoulder surgery in April 2012 (Laterjet procedure). After 3 months rehab I came across stronglifts and it has helped me a lot. Had massive collision during a field hockey match 5 months later and was really surprised and happy that my shoulder was fine with no pain. I have made slow progress on the overhead press but Id rather be safe than sorry. Looking forward to the next instalmanet.

  52. Randall
    11 years ago

    I don’t have the money to join a gym right now. I’m not mad at anyone. I’m working on it. I watched the Dr’s today and they were talking about ear ringing. I need the right kind of trainer. I’m learning to control my temper. I have to worry about my sister who is going through radiation and kind of needs her little brother. My parents need me too. I’ve been thinking about putting their Christmas tree up for them. I just thought you needed to know what kind of son and brother and brother in law I am.